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| Operators | |
| Session leader(s): | Steve Golovato |
| Physics operator(s): | Robert Granetz |
| Engineering operator(s): | David Gwinn,Steve Fairfax |
| Engineering Operator Run Comment |
| more rf, higher density |
| Session Leader Plans |
| Physics Operators Plans |
| Session Leader Summaries |
| Entered: Jul 7 2004 03:49:10:600PM |
| Author: To Be Determined |
Run Summary - 940602 -------------------- SL - Golovato PO - Granetz EO - Various people, mostly Fairfax Run Goals - (1) Look at higher density to improve loading with larger outer gap. (2) Move closer to having an x-point, see if H-mode returns. (3) Vary hydrogen concentration. We started with the last shot from yesterday and got a dud. A slight adjustment in BZ and gas got a disruptive plasma on the second shot and good plasmas the rest of the run (except shot 15 which had mutliple power supply failures). RF ran from shot 3 on, from 400-760ms, with two power steps, 150 kW, about 1-1.2 MW, and 1.4-1.8 MW. The power varies for the same setting depending on the tuning, which in turn depends on the loading. We initially got plasmas which limited on the inner nose, and saw transient H-modes, much as were seen last week. Puffing more gas to raise the density resulted in fatter plasmas. We then moved the plasma inward to increase the outer gap to 2-2.5 cm, as we will want for good diverted plasmas. The loading clearly decresed with outer gap and also appeared to increase with density. By adjusting the tuning to match at lower loading, we were able to put high power, 1.6-1.7 MW, into limited plasmas with appropriate outer gaps. Thus goals (1) and (2) were achieved. We were informed by the OMA team that we had plenty of hydrogen, even without puffing. It was presumably coming from the walls where it ended up after yesterday's run. It was as high as 15-25% and came down to a steady-state of 10%. There was no sense puffing more since there was already plenty, so goal (3) was achieved. We proceeded to try to develop a real diverted discharge. This involved a lot of pcs manipulation and guesses about what might work. The approach was not to try to put the x-point in the right place all at once but to first make one with symmetric demands, then if successful, move it down. Read the physics operator summary and logbook for this saga. We were close on the last shot, 26, which was highly elongated (kappa=1.76) and diverted after 720ms. It disrupted at 800 ms. The x-point was very close to where we want it in the lower divertor. Shot 26 also had good rf tuning such that the tuning improved as the loading went down, keeping the rf on at hihg power for the full pulse length. There was a long (perhaps debatable) H-mode from 600-760 ms, the length of the high power rf pulse (1.5 --> 1.3 MW). There was one rf interrupt right at the beginning, during which it fell out of H-mode. We made some adjustments to improve the equilibrium but we lost the last shot to a daq3 crash. Nevertheless we made a lot of progress both in learning to couple high power with less loading and in producing diverted discharges. |
| Physics Operator Summaries |
| Entered: Jul 7 2004 04:36:51:660PM |
| Author: To Be Determined |
| Physics operator's summary for run 940602. SL: S. Golovato PO: R. Granetz EC: D. Gwinn/S. Fairfax As mentioned in the session leader's summary, this was a very good run, with only one dud (001), and one shot lost to a power supply fault (015). In fact, the few problems we did have were mostly related to computer crashes. After shot 015, many of the workstations in the control area crashed and had to be rebooted, resulting in a 40 minute delay. Although the next pulse was a good plasma shot, DAQ2 apparently had not fully recovered from the reboot and as a result, much of the camac on the DAQ2 highway didn't get initialized, so significant data is missing on that shot (including part of the magnetics, such as Ip, fluxes, etc --> no EFIT). Just prior to starting up for shot 027, there was another crash (DAQ3 this time), which effectively terminated the run. There was also a brief power outage in the cell shortly after the run ended, which crashed TORVAC and other pc's. The RF goals of this run were accomplished with several hours to spare (see session leader's report), and this allowed us some time for discharge development, i.e. attempting to get a diverted plasma. The plasmas for the first part of the run were limited on the inner wall (and sometimes on the "bridge" of the inner divertor nose), and had an elongation of only 1.45. Knowing that higher elongation increases the chances of a disruption, our first step was to reduce the plasma current from 0.8 MA to 0.6 MA on shot 020. Next, we turned on the RXL feedback, which attempted to control the x-point radial position using only EF2L, resulting in too much imbalance in the EF2's and other coils (021). So EF2U was added into the RXL controller with symmetric weight (022). The hybrid tried to do the right thing, but the EF2's were driven close to their rail, and the x-point was still too far in. So then the OH2's were added into RXL symmetrically, but with the opposite polarity, so they would push the x-point outward to help the EF2's. It took us a few shots (023, 024, 025) to finally tune the M-matrix coefficient to an acceptable value. Shots 023 and 024 disrupted. The elongation on these shots was still not high enough to give a reasonable diverted plasma. Lacking a suitable predictor/controller for kappa, presently the best way to increase the elongation is through current programming of the EF1's. We did this for shot 025, resulting in a noticeable improvement. It was observed that the EF2 control of RXL was fighting its respective current programming, so for shot 026 we turned off the current programming feedback after t=0.5 s. This resulted in a very highly elongated (kappa=1.75) plasma that became diverted just before going vertically unstable. For the next shot, several tweaks were made, including slightly reducing the demanded currents in the EF1's, which would hopefully result in slightly less elongation. Due to a computer crash, the run was forced to end before we could try this shot. We feel very confident that the PCS programming would have produced a good diverted plasma, so we saved it as shot 940602927 (instead of 027) in the pcs$data area. This might be a good starting point for future divertor discharge development. |
| Session Leader Comments | |||
| Jun 2 1994 09:01:32:350AM | Steve Golovato | Run 940602
Continuation of yesterday's run - Look at higher density to improve loading with larger outer gap. Move closer to having an x-point, see if H-mode returns. Vary hydrogen concentration. Starting with last shot from yesterday but with rf. | |
| Jun 2 1994 04:58:20:730PM | Steve Golovato | 940602027
Plasma. no shot, daq3 crashed. run over. This would have been a great shot. | |
| Jun 2 1994 09:07:14:810AM | 940602001 | Steve Golovato | Run 940602
940602001 Dud. No rf. |
| Jun 2 1994 09:22:50:750AM | 940602002 | Steve Golovato | Run 940602
940602002 Plasma but disruptive. No rf, first shot rf in manual, this shot, hv not on. Next shot should go. |
| Jun 2 1994 09:46:58:920AM | 940602003 | Steve Golovato | Run 940602
940602003 PLasma. disrupted at 880ms. Hards. RF ran. |
| Jun 2 1994 10:03:24:760AM | 940602004 | Steve Golovato | 940602004
Plasma, no disruptions. PLasma pulling off of inner and outer limiters, limiting on inner nose (as last week). Loading dropa, rf interrupts above 1.2 MW. Saw brief h-modes as last week under these conditons. |
| Jun 2 1994 10:16:52:080AM | 940602005 | Steve Golovato | 940602005
Plasma. RF ran better. loading dropping starting at about 500ms as equilibrium evolves. raising gas to raise density, try to maintain loading with plasma off of outer limiter. |
| Jun 2 1994 10:30:10:840AM | 940602006 | Steve Golovato | 940602006
Plasma. rf ran without interrupts. density stayed up, plasma stayed fat and on outer limiter, rf ran until transmitter faulted at 1.75MW. Reduced power a little for next shot. Loading flat at 10 ohms. |
| Jun 2 1994 10:54:55:440AM | 940602007 | Steve Golovato | 940602007
Plasma. rf ran longer with power programmed slightly lower, but loading went up as density rose during rf, power was actually higher. |
| Jun 2 1994 11:13:50:080AM | 940602008 | Steve Golovato | 940602008
Plasma. Tweeked power programming down again. Running ok with outer gap of about 1.5cm. |
| Jun 2 1994 11:27:49:010AM | 940602009 | Steve Golovato | 940602009
Plasma. Moved puff for tom luke out to 850ms from 780ms. rf interrupted at 710ms at 1.7MW. Density rise with rf raises loading, power. |
| Jun 2 1994 11:49:43:800AM | 940602010 | Steve Golovato | 940602010
Plasma. Reduced gas after 600ms a little, moving rcur to .665 from .67 between 500 and 600ms. Loading drops from 11.5 ti 6.5 ohms, power at 1.4MW. Plasma goes in and out of h-mode as loading drops further and power drops.. |
| Jun 2 1994 11:58:16:430AM | 940602011 | Steve Golovato | 940602011
Plasma. Try tuning to match better after plasma moves in. Tuning better, tune some more. |
| Jun 2 1994 12:25:17:560PM | 940602012 | Steve Golovato | 940602012
Plasma. Tune more to try to match lower loading. |
| Jun 2 1994 12:35:32:850PM | 940602013 | Steve Golovato | 940602013
Plasma. Power droppiong. |
| Jun 2 1994 12:49:47:060PM | 940602014 | Steve Golovato | 940602014
Plasma. Power has dropped to about 1.3MW, tweeking it up a little. Tweeking up gas also. Laoding went up, as did power. |
| Jun 2 1994 12:54:03:200PM | 940602014 | Steve Golovato | 940602014
Plasma. Power has dropped to about 1.3MW, tweeking it up a little. Tweeking up gas also. Loading went up, as did power, to 1.6MW. |
| Jun 2 1994 01:02:34:910PM | 940602015 | Steve Golovato | 940602015
No plasma, power supply failure. Lower gas late to avoid disruption during rampdown, raise it earlier to bring up density sooner. |
| Jun 2 1994 02:12:53:120PM | 940602016 | Steve Golovato | 940602016
Plasma. Had 40 minute delay because of computer failure. No magnetics or xtomo data. Short periods of elm-free h-mode at 700 and 740ms. 1.6MW. Interrupts continually during first, low power rf because of detuning. |
| Jun 2 1994 02:20:53:410PM | 940602017 | Steve Golovato | 940602017
Plasma. Many rf interrupts, tuning went too far. |
| Jun 2 1994 02:35:22:900PM | 940602018 | Steve Golovato | 940602018
Plasma. Tune back a little. Raise plasma 0.5cm. Plasma moved up, also reduced outer gap from 2.5 to 1.5cm, raising loading to 10 ohms. |
| Jun 2 1994 02:56:16:500PM | 940602019 | Steve Golovato | 940602019
Plasma. Moving plasma in by 0.5cm more. Outer gap to 2cm. Loading lower. |
| Jun 2 1994 03:11:18:610PM | 940602020 | Steve Golovato | 940602020
Plasma. Lowered current to 600ka before starting to make x-point. RF interrupting at highest power 1.7MW. |
| Jun 2 1994 03:30:06:330PM | 940602021 | Steve Golovato | 940602021
Plasma. Turning on x-point R-position feedback from .5-.9s. Also moving plasma out 1cm. No x-point but plasma moved out 1cm. rf interrupts after .65s |
| Jun 2 1994 03:50:52:450PM | 940602022 | Steve Golovato | 940602022
Plasma. Increasing rxl prop gain and adding ef2u as well as ef2l. Keeping things symmetric even if we get double null. Almost got lower xpoint, on nose. Adding oh2's symmetrically to push as well as pulling with ef2's. |
| Jun 2 1994 03:55:17:060PM | 940602022 | Steve Golovato | 940602022
Plasma. Increasing rxl prop gain and adding ef2u as well as ef2l. Keeping things symmetric even if we get double null. Almost got lower xpoint, on nose. Adding oh2's symmetrically to push as well as pulling with ef2's. |
| Jun 2 1994 04:03:56:440PM | 940602023 | Steve Golovato | 940602023
Plasma. Disrupted early, not diverted, rf off early. Not very successful yet. |
| Jun 2 1994 04:22:01:970PM | 940602024 | Steve Golovato | 940602024
Plasma. oh2's too strong. rf a little better. disrupted early. |
| Jun 2 1994 04:51:57:620PM | 940602025 | Steve Golovato | 940602025
Plasma. disrutped early, no xpoint in sight. |
| Jun 2 1994 04:54:37:650PM | 940602026 | Steve Golovato | 940602026
Plasma. Long but ambiguous h-mode 620-760ms. diverts at 740, disrupts at 800ms, very elongated, kappa=1.76. |
| Physics Operator Comments | |||
| Jun 2 1994 08:58:11:840AM | 940602001 | Robert Granetz | Start with last shot from yesterday. Once we get a plasma, the first goal is
to increase the plasma density to improve coupling to the RF antenna, and if successful, move the plasma farther off both the inner and outer limiter surfaces. |
| Jun 2 1994 09:10:29:940AM | 940602001 | Robert Granetz | Dud. A touch too much vertical field. RF assist didn't go, either.
Next shot, 15 amps more negative current in EF4. Hopefully the RF will go also. |
| Jun 2 1994 09:27:25:940AM | 940602002 | Robert Granetz | Plasma. Disrupted upwards at 0.765 s, Ip=0.80 MA. Big spike up to 0.97 MA at
the disruption. Halo_u=100 kA. Very little in the halo_l or the divertor. Plasma was disruptive for much of the shot. RF did not fire. Next shot, lower pre-fill from 1.1 to 1.0e-5 torr. And get the RF on. |
| Jun 2 1994 09:43:21:840AM | 940602003 | Robert Granetz | Plasma. Disrupted downward during the rampdown. Hard x-rays early on.
RF fired on this one. Picrf=1.6 MW, in three separate pulses. Next shot, raise pre-fill to 1.1 from 1.0e-5. |
| Jun 2 1994 09:58:45:480AM | 940602004 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruption. Ip=0.80 MA, duration=1.15 s. RF go to about
1.2 MW and then crapped out. Plasma just barely pulls off of both inner and outer midplane surfaces, and is limited on the inner divertor nose bridge around 0.55 s. Next shot, no changes, except enable argon for John Rice. |
| Jun 2 1994 10:02:11:150AM | 940602004 | Robert Granetz | There were brief ICRF H-modes during this shot (around 0.65 s).
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| Jun 2 1994 10:12:15:310AM | 940602005 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruption. Ip=0.80 MA, duration=1.14 s. RF had several
interruptions, but not as bad as last shot. Picrf=1.2-1.3 MW. Next shot, raise pulse gas programming from 0.4 s onward. Jim Terry reports that hydrogen is increasing during each pulse, and from pulse-to-pulse. I just verified that the relevant valve is NOT enabled, so maybe it's coming from the walls. |
| Jun 2 1994 10:26:34:910AM | 940602006 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruption. Ip=0.81 MA, duration=1.13 s. RF worked much
better on this shot, because the density came up, as programmed. Picrf=1.7 MW. No changes for next shot. |
| Jun 2 1994 10:45:50:920AM | 940602007 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruption. Ip=0.81 MA, duration=1.10 s. Picrf=1.75 MW.
Next shot, no changes. |
| Jun 2 1994 11:11:11:590AM | 940602008 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruption. Ip=0.81 MA, duration=1.12 s. Picrf=1.6 MW.
Density reaches nl=1.0e20 at 0.75 s. More RF H-modes. Next shot, move the 20 ms gas puff later in the shot (from 0.78 s to 0.85 s). This pulse is for Tom Luke. |
| Jun 2 1994 11:28:25:950AM | 940602009 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. A bit disruptive starting at 0.94 s. Ip=0.81 MA, duration=1.05 s
Density is too high during the late rampdown. Picrf=1.65 MW. Next shot, lower gas late in shot, and try to get a better density flattop throughout the shot. Also, program RCUR to move the plasma 0.5 cm inward during most of the RF pulse duration (from 0.67 to 0.665 m). |
| Jun 2 1994 11:45:56:930AM | 940602010 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruptions. Ip=0.81 MA, duration=1.12 s. Picrf=1.4-1.5 MW.
We got the change in R-centroid, and it affected the RF loading, as expected. Next shot, increase slightly the late 20 ms gas pulse for Tom Luke, and increase the argon gas puff pulse by stretching it out by an extra 1 ms. |
| Jun 2 1994 11:57:53:980AM | 940602011 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruptions. Ip=0.81 MA, duration=1.12 s. Picrf=1.4 MW.
Next shot, tweak up Tom Luke's 20 ms gas puff by 1 volt. |
| Jun 2 1994 12:17:44:270PM | 940602012 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruptions. Ip=0.81 MA, duration=1.12 s. Picrf=1.3-1.4 MW.
Next shot, make another 1 volt increase on Tom Luke's 20 ms gas puff |
| Jun 2 1994 12:39:00:730PM | 940602013 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruptions. Ip=0.81 MA, duration=1.12 s. Picrf=1.3 MW.
Next shot, increase gas puff after 0.4 s. |
| Jun 2 1994 12:49:14:810PM | 940602014 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. Somewhat disruptive during the late current rampdown.
Ip=0.81 MA, duration=1.01 s. Too much density late in the shot. Picrf=1.55 MW. Next shot, reduce late gas puffing, and increase early gas puffing. |
| Jun 2 1994 01:04:15:030PM | 940602015 | Robert Granetz | No plasma. OH1, OH2's, and EF1's all faulted early and never actually came
on. Apparently the PF breaker pulled out before the shot. |
| Jun 2 1994 01:17:15:310PM | 940602015 | Robert Granetz | We're having computer and communication problems.
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| Jun 2 1994 01:54:05:920PM | 940602015 | Robert Granetz | Multiple workstations have to be rebooted. We'll be down for a while.
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| Jun 2 1994 02:08:12:280PM | 940602016 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruptions. Some of the magnetics and xtomo digitisers
failed to initialize, so we have no Ip and no flux data, etc. Picrh=1.6 MW. There apparently were a couple of extremely brief (5 ms) ELM-free periods during the RF pulse. No changes for next shot. |
| Jun 2 1994 02:23:32:400PM | 940602017 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. Minor disruptions late in the rampdown. Ip=0.81 MA,
duration=1.02 s. RF was only on for a very brief pulse (.02 s, 1.8 MW) due to being mis-tuned. For next shot, program in a shift of +0.5 cm in ZCUR, starting at 0.5 s. This is in response to a request by Yuichi, since EFIT claims the plasma is 5 mm down. (This does not agree with the x-rays, which claim Z-centroid=-1 mm.) |
| Jun 2 1994 02:35:51:550PM | 940602018 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. Minor disruptions after t=0.94 s, late in the rampdown.
Ip=0.81 MA, duration=1.07 s. Could be a sharkfin at 0.94 s. We got the programmed change in ZCUR. Next shot, move RCUR further in by 5 mm starting at 0.5-0.6 s. |
| Jun 2 1994 02:55:18:620PM | 940602019 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. Minor disruptions late in rampdown. Ip=0.81 MA, duration=1.02 s.
Picrf=1.6 MW. For next shot, reduce Ip to 0.6 MA, in preparation for trying to get a divertor plasma. |
| Jun 2 1994 03:12:24:810PM | 940602020 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruptions. Ip=0.64 MA, duration=1.11 s.
Next shot, try for divertor. Put gain of 2 on RXL, from t=0.5 to 0.9 s, and remove inward 1 cm step in RCUR (the demand is now to stay at 0.67 m). |
| Jun 2 1994 03:30:46:110PM | 940602021 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruptions. Ip=0.63 MA, duration=1.10 s. Picrf=1.5-1.6 MW.
Divertor not formed, however. Next shot, increase gain on RXL from 2 to 5, and include EF2U in the RXL controller, with symmetric M-matrix value. This is to reduce the problem of creating an upper x-point near the inner wall, which is what we did on this shot. |
| Jun 2 1994 03:45:23:180PM | 940602022 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma, No disruption. Ip=0.63 MA, duration=1.09 s. Came close
to getting a diverted plasma, but not quite, and EF2's are nearly maxed out in current. Next shot, include OH2's in the RXL controller with the opposite sign for M, so that they will push the x-points. |
| Jun 2 1994 04:03:14:290PM | 940602023 | Robert Granetz | Plasma. Disrupted at 0.6 s (slow dI/dt). Ip=0.60 MA, duration=0.64 s.
Shape was not too far from circular (kappa=1.2). On next shot, reduce the M-values for the OH2's in the RXL controllers from -2.e-3 to -0.5e-3 (i.e. a factor of four). |
| Jun 2 1994 04:22:19:400PM | 940602024 | Robert Granetz | Plasma. Disruptive, starting at 0.66 s, with final disruption at 0.72 s.
Ip=0.60 MA. Still didn't form a divertor, and in fact, the inclusion of the OH2's doesn't seem to have helped us. Density starts climbing after 0.5 s, similar to what is seen in a detached plasma. Next shot, reduce M-values of OH2's in the RXL controller another factor of 10, and change EF1U&L current programming to help increase plasma elongation. |
| Jun 2 1994 04:31:29:970PM | 940602025 | Robert Granetz | Good plasma. No disruptions. Ip=0.63 MA, duration=1.14 s. Picrf=1.5 MW.
Next shot, turn off feedback on EF2 current programming after 0.5 s (which is about the time that RXL feedback comes on). |
| Jun 2 1994 04:53:08:920PM | 940602026 | Robert Granetz | Plasma. Upward disruption at 0.80 s. Ip=0.63 MA. Picrf=1.5 MW
We very nearly got a diverted plasma, but the elongation went too high (1.75) and the plasma disrupted. For the next shot, in the RXL controller, double the OH2 M-value and reduce the EF2's M-value by 20%. Also change EF1U&L programming so that they don't pull as much. |
| Jun 2 1994 04:58:24:240PM | 940602026 | Robert Granetz | DAQ3 crashed before we could get the next shot off. End of run.
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| Jun 2 1994 05:02:03:480PM | 940602026 | Robert Granetz | In order to save the PCS changes that we made for the next shot (which couldn't
be taken because of the computer crash), I saved it as shot #940602927 in the pcs$data directory. |
| Engineering Operator Comments | ||||
| Shot | Time | Type | Status | Comment |
| 1 | 08:57:21:220AM | Plasma | Ok | |
| 2 | 09:11:50:530AM | Plasma | Ok | disruption 780 ka |
| 3 | 09:28:18:180AM | Plasma | Ok | 800 ka |
| 4 | 09:44:12:220AM | Plasma | Ok | 800 ka |
| 5 | 09:59:02:470AM | Plasma | Ok | 800 ka |
| 6 | 10:14:55:020AM | Plasma | Ok | 800 ka |
| 7 | 10:37:19:860AM | Plasma | Ok | plasma 800 ka |
| 8 | 10:54:09:540AM | Plasma | Ok | 800ka |
| 9 | 11:13:21:970AM | Plasma | Ok | oh1 com fail |
| 10 | 11:30:10:690AM | Plasma | Ok | 800ka |
| 11 | 11:46:32:190AM | Plasma | Ok | no faults |
| 12 | 12:06:18:840PM | Plasma | Ok | 800 kA; plasma current terminated at less than 100 kA |
| 13 | 12:25:22:650PM | Plasma | Ok | No faults |
| 14 | 12:40:43:670PM | Plasma | Ok | 800 ka; minor disruption at 400 kA during ramp-down but recovered. |
| 15 | 12:56:54:140PM | Plasma | Bad | PF breaker opened before shot; reason unclear, no OH1, OH2s, EF1s |
| 16 | 01:50:58:980PM | Plasma | Ok | 40-minute delay for DAQ3 reboot; this plasma OK but no magnetics data |
| 17 | 02:09:54:930PM | Plasma | Ok | No faults |
| 18 | 02:23:04:860PM | Plasma | Ok | ramped down to 67 kA from 820 |
| 19 | 02:42:28:870PM | Plasma | Ok | 1.6 MW RF this shot |
| 20 | 02:58:03:660PM | Plasma | Ok | 600 kA this shot; preparing to bring up diverter |
| 21 | 03:15:39:930PM | Plasma | Ok | 600 kA; down to 40 kA at end; not sure we got diverter this shot |
| 22 | 03:32:23:340PM | Plasma | Ok | divertor on nose tiles. Checking probes |
| 23 | 03:52:00:320PM | Plasma | Ok | very round plasma. Interesting 600 kA disruption. |
| 24 | 04:06:20:960PM | Plasma | Ok | disrupted from 400 kA |
| 25 | 04:23:27:250PM | Plasma | Ok | plasma finished; no disruption |
| 26 | 04:36:58:870PM | Plasma | Ok | 600 kA disruption; EF2U and EF2L in current limit 0.6-0.8 sec |